1: I love Hoboken! Really! We have friends who live there (just two Path stops from Manhattan) and whenever we visit we have the rockin-est time in Hoboken.

Did you ever go to La Tartuferia? (shit, I found out that it was closed by googling the restaurant for this comment) The food was always amazing, the Italian owner was always drunk and kised all women in an inappropriate manner and the main waiter was Spanish (and amazing, and amazingly hot) with a great non-italian accent.

Long live Hoboken.

Posted by kerewin at 11:46 pm on 09.11.05

2: I always passed through Hoboken (on the Path train). Does it smell of latino fast food like Jersey City?

Posted by t at 9:30 am on 09.12.05

3: Hoboken is quite nice. My Boy lives in Jersey City, and we often wander over into the nicer part of the Garden State. When he bought, he was assured that Jersey City was "up and coming" but we're still waiting for that. In the meantime, Hooray for Hoboken!

Posted by teahouseblossom at 10:03 am on 09.12.05

4: I do remember a time (ahem, you are OLD Father William), when Hoboken was actually a funky type of place, where it's curiosities where the bar with the WPA mural on its wall (the mad Mexican artist?...he was also working for Rockefeller) the streets were littered with bad pen and ink (as in, "Would you like to come up and see my enravings, my sweet?"), and you could actually get into trouble if you bad mouthed any stevedore.

But then, I am old and cranky.

I know my brotherinlaw sold his stufio for a mint, and moved to Spain.

The bastid.

Posted by Beantown Bwana at 12:32 pm on 09.12.05

5: I agree, Hoboken (home of Frank Sinatra) is wonderful! I wouldn't be embarrased in the least to say I lived there-I'm glad you have decided you like it! I have to plug the Schnackenberg's Luncheonette now (it's in my family). It's a nice, old-timey place to grab a burger and sweets and such, for an inexpensive price. Okay, I'm through-sorry!

Posted by at 3:20 pm on 09.12.05

6: It's a great place for stalking. None of this "move along" shit from the police like you get in other places, what with their court injunctions and what not. Like, since when did leaning against a lampost become a crime anyway. I've grown to like the Holbokeners.

Posted by Trevor at 4:15 pm on 09.12.05

7: Hoboken. I *hate* Hoboken. If I didn't need the money I'd quit my job just so I'd never have to go to Hoboken again. If I'd wanted to work in a small hick suburban town I'd have moved there instead of the city. Note that Sinatra left Hoboken at 16 and never set foot in the place again. Note also that the famous "first baseball game" was only played in the Elysian Fields because the two teams had been kicked off their regular playing fields on the East Side of Manhattan. Note finally that Hobokeners conveniently forget these two points. Yecch.

Posted by MooseAndSquirrel at 4:41 pm on 09.12.05

8: "Note that Sinatra left Hoboken at 16 and never set foot in the place again."

He was a mediocre talent whose fame rose courtesy of the mafia.
Good riddance. Blue collar types like Sinatra will never be born in Hoboken again.

On a positive note, Jon Corzine lives in Hoboken.

Hoboken is clean and pristine. It's what Brooklyn should have been, but never was.

Posted by Chandler at 4:52 pm on 09.12.05

9: You'll notice that everyone that says they love Hoboken are people from Hoboken that deep down wish they live in Manhattan or people from middle of Jersey.

Also, just to clarify, Hoboken is 1 PATH train ride to Manhattan, not subway ride.

Sorry dude...

Posted by Johnie at 5:27 pm on 09.12.05

10: The whole reason Hoboken used to be cool is because it was cheap to live there and full of those who couldn't (or didn't want to deal with) Manhattan. There was a great music and arts scene with absolutely none of the hipster or trust fund bullshit you get on the LES or Brooklyn. And the block parties were legendary.

Now it is mostly no-necks jogging after work, bars that make me want to drink at home and double parked cars. I would rather die than live there - however there are still a few cools spots and few old timers living there.

Posted by littledebbiet at 5:47 pm on 09.12.05

11: yay for hobo!
I love my massive apartment with its 14 ft ceilings and river view.
I love that I live across the street from a beautiful well-maintained park
I love my washer, dryer, and dishwasher
I love that my bathroom is the size of some manhattanite's bedroom (it is 7x15, btw)
I love my friendly neighbors that say hi
I love that I know all of the names of the people in my 10-apt building
I love that the waiters and bartenders at my local pub around the corner know my name
I love that my rent is 1/3 of what it would be in Manhattan
I love that I can grow tomatoes in my yard
I love that my streetcorner doesnt smell like urine like in the EVillage
I love that many many many people are narrowminded and hate hoboken, because it keeps them out of my town

Posted by me at 6:19 pm on 09.12.05

12: I have lived in Hoboken for 3 years and I couldn't be happier. I have a fantastic 1 bedroom apartment in a condo building (I am the only rental) for $1150. It's bigger than any of my friends' apartments that live in Manhattan and I pay about half of what they pay. I even pay less than those that share cramped 2 bedroom apartments. I have a balcony, a dishwasher, washer and dryer in my apartment, 2 huge closets, a heat lamp in my bathroom, counterspace, and beautiful moldings throughout my apartment. The location is unbeatable! I get to work faster than any of my co-workers that live in Manhattan and I live in a neighborhood that I feel safe to walk in at night. People are friendly and Hoboken is always busy with people walking their dogs, running, or eating outside at the numerous restaurants throughout town. It's such a charming place to live and I couldn't think of giving it up to move to a noisy, dirty, crowded, cramped, and overpriced neighborhood in Manhattan.

Posted by Heather at 7:09 pm on 09.12.05

13: Miss working with you, old chap!

Well written. If you love Hoboken so much, you can recapture the essence of it on the East side of Manhattan in the 50s. To be precise, 3rd avenue.

Check it out on a Friday night ... I double dog dare you.

Posted by Jason at 7:26 pm on 09.12.05

14: Frank J. Festa, Licensed Realtor-Associate
Weichert Realtors 55 Stirling Road Watchung, New Jersey 07069
Phone 908-561-5400 Ext. 2110 E-Mail. fjfesta@comcast.net

If anyone is moving to New Jersey, please contact me, I would be happy to work for you.

This is not an offer to buy or sell Real Estate Property. Regards, Frank

Posted by Frank J. Festa at 7:42 pm on 09.12.05

15: Hell yeah. I live there and I love my massive 2 bedroom along the park that is 1500 a month. I love the BYOB restaurants, the best Italian and Cuban cooking, Charritos, backyards, Rue De Jardin, Anthony David's, Rogo's Friday night $1 drinks, Italians that speak Italian, the fact that you can get a beer for 2 bucks, the waterfront, the parking, the fact that I can walk home at 3 am and it's not scary.

Yay Jerz!

Posted by Heather at 8:09 pm on 09.12.05

16: FUCK HOBOKEN! ALL YOU FUCKERS@! FUCK YOU!

Posted by at 8:50 pm on 09.12.05

17: I had a girlfriend in Hoboken some time ago. Even though I lived in Hipsterburg Brooklyn, I didn't mind going over there at all. I was there recently and can't believe the amount of hot women there!
unfortunately the frat head count is high, but at least it's a change from drunk hipsters.

Sleep Til Brooklyn!

Posted by Gerald at 8:56 pm on 09.12.05

18: Frank Sinatra, a mediocre talent. Ha! Wait, you can't even pair up "mediocre" and "talent." Makes no sense. It's one or the other. One cannot really claim talent if that talent is mediocre.

But in any case, forget the Ol' Blue Eyes debate. Michael Chang hails from Hoboken. All hail the '89 French Open Champion and his underhand serve. Are you reading, Mr. Lendl??

Posted by Robotnik at 9:06 pm on 09.12.05

19: You say that yuppies haven't reached that part of town where the projects are. Well - I'm here to tell you that they have. I lived on Jackson St. from '93 to 2000. In an apt. building directly across from the projects. I guess if the old language still fits for yuppie (young urban professional) then yes, I can be called a yuppie (which sadly, most "hipsters" living in Brooklyn are as well - they just refuse to believe it). And by the way - in the entire seven years that I spent living on Jackson St. - I loved it. It was like living on any other block in Hoboken. Your neighbors say hi to you in the morning, you're still near good eats and we had our own block parties. So I say: Long Live Hoboken and Long Live That Part of Hoboken That Most Hobokenites Are Too Afraid To Venture To.

Posted by Boo at 10:08 pm on 09.12.05

20: I'd just like to point out that it would be impossible for Hoboken to be one subway stop away from Manhattan, since the subway doesn't venture into any other states other than NYC. And I'm not sure why one wouldn't get a place across the river and ditch the PATH fares, but that's your prerogative.

Posted by Zander at 10:47 pm on 09.12.05

21: Why hasn't anyone pointed out that the guy who loves livin' it up in hnj is a apparently such a supastar - what with his progressive political views and exotic foriegn upbringing - that he believes it is derigeur to wake up all by himself after what must have been a slammin' saturday in b'lyn. natch. some folks decide to sleep in sundays for different reasons than a hangover, champ.

Posted by matteo at 11:04 pm on 09.12.05

22: Look. An underground train is an underground train, whatever you want to call it. Subway, PATH, tube, whatever.

And the PATH (subway) fare is $1.50. The NY subway fare is $2.00.

Who wins?

Posted by Eurotrash at 11:04 pm on 09.12.05

23: Oh, and Matteo - I'm female. And I never claimed to have a great life. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Read the archives, dude.

Posted by Eurotrash at 11:05 pm on 09.12.05

24: But we do have jackasses on other side of the river who like to point out that the subway doesn't venture into any other states than the state of nyc. so either way its kind of a wash.

Posted by matteo at 11:07 pm on 09.12.05

25: Crikies. Bait me into reading the archives. Only got through a few and now i'm depressed. you'll have me rethinking caustic comments all nite.

Posted by matteo at 11:16 pm on 09.12.05

26: Crikies. Bait me into reading the archives. Only got through a few and now i'm depressed. you'll have me rethinking caustic comments all nite.

Posted by matteo at 11:18 pm on 09.12.05

27: Sorry.

Posted by Eurotrash at 11:43 pm on 09.12.05

28: While I am ALL for living how & where suits you best, I'd like to say that you really CAN find good deals in Manhattan too...

And, by deals I'm refering to things that most people assume you automatically HAVE to give up in order to live in the city... sure, my rent (@ $1675) may be a couple hundred bucks a month more than Bklyn or NJ, but I'm getting hell of a lot for that $1675 - whether it's in Manhattan or Brooklyn or Hoboken or Green Bay Wisconsin (ok, that's a little much, but you know what i'm saying)...

$1675 got me and my girlfriend a CLEAN & windowed one bedroom on W. 15th (chelsea-west vill border) with 10.5 ft ceilings that includes renovated windowed kitchen w/ stainless steel appliances and white subway-tile backsplashes, new wood floors, a windowed black & white checkered tile bath, 2 FULL closets, one w/ a loft space big enough to store both of my acoustic guitars as well as other junk, and an efficient yet quite-as-a-mouse Malber clothes washer/dryer combo in the other closet.

On top of all that, it's quiet, on a great tree-lined block, within walking distance to almost everywhere I want to be quickly, & no more than 1 block away from the 1 2 3, F V (which I take to work in Bklyn), & A C E lines, and...

It has a personal 110 Sq Ft Outdoor White-Fence & Ivy Patio in the back that easily accomodates our bistro table, lounge & bbq gas grill!

As long as you love where you're living- that's great and no one can ever take that away from you... but I'll never here someone telling me that they're getting soooooooooo much more from living outside of Manhattan.

Posted by Kellen at 12:56 am on 09.13.05

29: I lived in Hoboken from 1990 through 2004. (Brownstone on Garden, The Castle on Adams). My children grew up there, it's an unbelievably great place - except of course for The Urinators, are they still around? The Hoboken Reporter used to be hilarious when Joe Barry had it - they had this hysterical Police Beat column ... parking wise, it's really helpful to know the cops and anyone politically connected, which is basically half the town. Russo, insane Italian Criminal, was mayor then, oh boy. They would have fistfights at council meetings, once he - and his son, a cop - tried to run down (in his Mayormobile) a County Representative. Those were the days. And in case any various Russo's are reading this and want to sue me (they were always sueing people, it was less of a hobby, more of a calling), HA I am in Australia, you can't get me -

Posted by pj at 5:42 am on 09.13.05

30: I love how Kellen not-so-subtly sneaks in those perceived mouth watering details regarding her/his domicile, complete w/square footage of...FENCE. And in the last 'graph he/she tries to sound fair, un-biased, and all lovey-dovey leaning towards the 'live and let live' philosophy, but quickly shatters it all with the last sentence. I lived in various parts of Manhattan for many years and while I can still opine that NYC is the greatest city, I'd venture to say that right now, regarding my situation, where I am currently biding my time until the six-foot hole is dug, "I am getting sooooo much more from living outside Manhattan."

Posted by AMP at 7:49 am on 09.13.05

31: I lived in Manhattan for 14 years and after about a decade you totally get over it. It's a nice place to visit, but Hoboken is way nicer to live in. It's nicer than where most of my friends live in Brooklyn, too. It's clean and quiet and I never get hassled on the street (I'm a girl so that's important to me). Plus, when the terrorists attack NYC and you're all clogging up the bridges and tunnels unable to get out, I'll just hop on my bike and head west.

Posted by km at 10:18 am on 09.13.05

32: The only person I know who moved from Manhattan to Hoboken did so because of her twin crippling dependencies: 1) massive credit card debt payments; and 2) a co-dependent relationship with a guy who lives in Hoboken.

Posted by at 10:44 am on 09.13.05

33: hoboken is such a pathetic one horse town trying to be more than it can ever be.

in reality it's filled with stupid screaming yahoos who think they are so cool but they are all either spoiled brats from deep jersey spending daddy's money, or nyc wannabes, and that's during the day. at night it's nothing but a bunch of muscle head joeys trying to mate with some vuitton clutching money & husband seeking daddy's girls.

ugh. what a sh*thole.

Posted by HobokenHater at 10:44 am on 09.13.05

34: I like the name Hoboken. Is it an old Red Injun name? Or Dutch or what?
Is there a place enar it called Weepoken as well, or did I dream that?
Crazy name, crazy place

Posted by Luke at 11:05 am on 09.13.05

35: Hoboken - "a pipe for smoking"

Weehawken = "Place of gulls"

Yup, Injun names.

http://www.getnj.com/origname/origintro.shtml

Tells origin of NJ place names. Now I'm curious about the tribes that might have lived there. (not counting the guidos who still live there today).

Posted by Cranky at 11:28 am on 09.13.05

36: I lived in the "boken" back in 94 and 95. Since then I have moved into Manhattan. ok so my 2 cents. Hoboken is not that cheap.
Cons:
1. Rent is pretty high now and with transportation you really are spending the same if not more in Hoboken.
2. Parking sucks (if you have a car and live there you have to either move it everyother day or rent a space for lots $$
3. You cant hail a cab (its against the law).
4. You have to walk everywhere, no hopping on the subway to get to the other side of town
5. Its not that safe, I feel safer in NYC than I ever did in Hoboken. I would never walk the streets at night there, the side streets are empty and someone can sneak up on you.
6. Filled with NJ (and i can say ths b/c im orig from NJ) tacky guidos and guidettes. Nuff said
7. Lots of vermin
8. Restaurants by far not as good as NYC.
9. Not as convienant as everyone thinks, and very low selection of stores.
10. Shopping sucks, no good clothes stores. Nearest place is in scary newport mall.

Posted by jess at 11:30 am on 09.13.05

37: I visit friends in Hoboken all the time. There is one glaring downside. It is always an hour away. Don't let anyone fool you -its always an hour. It always takes at least two trains to get there. When you add up the time getting to them and transferring, it always adds up to an hour. Plus most people live at least 10 blocks from the Path. Thats a long walk. Forget about cabs. Thats always a $50 slap. Oh, and its an hour back to Manhattan too.

Posted by Jim at 11:30 am on 09.13.05

38: Hoboken - "a pipe for smoking"

Weehawken = "Place of gulls"

Yup, Injun names.

http://www.getnj.com/origname/origintro.shtml

Tells origin of NJ place names. Now I'm curious about the tribes that might have lived there. (not counting the guidos who still live there today).

Posted by Cranky at 11:38 am on 09.13.05

39: whoops. sorry about that.

Posted by Cranky at 11:39 am on 09.13.05

40: Ah yes, the guido. Here is a link for the newbies to E.T.'s comment section.

http://www.njguido.com/

The people who put this together are serious about it. :-)

Posted by Cranky at 11:44 am on 09.13.05

41: Oh my God! Someone just reminded me of the old Reporter police blotter. Frickin' hysterical. The one thing I used to look forward to with that paper. By the way, not originally from Hoboken, choose to live here for various reasons. Most importantly, I've met more cool people from this town than from LES or Williamsburg. And I mean actually from this town. I love the people bashing it just to get a rise out of those of us who love it.
P.S. The Urinators aren't around as much.

Posted by Ricardo at 12:00 pm on 09.13.05

42: I love Hoboken. Been here for 5 years and I am not going back.

I lived in Clinton Hill/Ft. Greene Brooklyn long before all of you truckerhat, "Defend Brooklyn" T-shirt wearing wussies could handle it. I've lived Uptown, and the East Village too.

I have 775 sq ft one bedroom, a pool, a gym, a washer and dryer *in* my apartment, on the waterfront for what I would pay for a studio in NYC. I leave my door, 2 minutes later, I get on a freaking FERRY to get to work. Least stress of any commute..ever. The worst thing I have to worry about at night is an irate wallstreeter who's had too much scotch, and maybe Vinny who's had too many 'roids. At least he's not going to stab me for my shoes.

The funniest thing about NYC people who slam Jersey is that most of them, like most of Manhattan, ESPECIALLY Brooklyn, aren't even from there. Half the time they're from some boring little town in the middle of nowhere...

Overcompensate much?

Whatever, "hipsters". Long live Hoboken!

Posted by E at 1:14 pm on 09.13.05

43: I love Hoboken. Been here for 5 years and I am not going back.

I lived in Clinton Hill/Ft. Greene Brooklyn long before all of you truckerhat, "Defend Brooklyn" T-shirt wearing wussies could handle it. I've lived Uptown, and the East Village too.

I have 775 sq ft one bedroom, a pool, a gym, a washer and dryer *in* my apartment, on the waterfront for what I would pay for a studio in NYC. I leave my door, 2 minutes later, I get on a freaking FERRY to get to work. Least stress of any commute..ever. The worst thing I have to worry about at night is an irate wallstreeter who's had too much scotch, and maybe Vinny who's had too many 'roids. At least he's not going to stab me for my shoes.

The funniest thing about NYC people who slam Jersey is that most of them, like most of Manhattan, ESPECIALLY Brooklyn, aren't even from there. Half the time they're from some boring little town in the middle of nowhere...

Overcompensate much?

Whatever, "hipsters". Long live Hoboken!

Posted by E at 1:39 pm on 09.13.05

44: I've lived in Manhattan (on avenue D.) for ten years, and worked in Hoboken for six. I hate to break it to everyone, but I still love them both. Although I hate what the recent migrants into my home area (trust fund hipsters, read: yuppies) have done to the place, I, like many in Hoboken, have a sweet deal on my giant Manhattan apt. For some reason, I don't find the yuppies in Hoboken nearly as offensive as the ones on home turf. Maybe someone can explain that to me - or maybe I'm a giant hypocrite.
Communting to Hoboken for work has always been a treat. No one on the PATH, and getting out, well, it's like a breath of fresh air: comparitively quiet and somehow relaxing. Who else is relaxed ON THE WAY to work? And agreed, by the way: Brooklyn hipsters ARE yuppies..maybe just in-training, with better fashion-sense..

Chandler - what on earth do you have against "blue collar types"? My blue-collar sister law just gave birth to a baby girl on Sunday. She and my blue collar brother-in-law live on Washington & Fourth.

Posted by Lo at 2:05 pm on 09.13.05

45: Wow, what a pathetic racist! Minorities are made to serve you and apparently should lick your boots in gratitude for the pennies that you throw towards the projects?! Perhaps you should go back to the European, socialist country from whence you came and spare us minorities (some of whom are Ivy-League educated professionals?!) your presence in Hoboken, New York, or anywhere else in the United States. We have enough home-grown bigots that we don't need to import any more.

Posted by SJ at 2:10 pm on 09.13.05

46: Sigh. I was being ironic, SJ.

And they say Americans don't do irony. Pff.

Posted by Eurotrash at 2:27 pm on 09.13.05

47: Hoboken sucks out loud. It isnt that much cheaper than manhattan, at least not cheap enough to make it worthliving around a bunch of tools, all clones of each other with no style or flavor whatsoever, and who still act like they're still in high school (maybe college). I am a real estate professional and a NJ expat, so I do know what I am talking about, and if you are refuting me as you read this, then you are a clown and couldn't get into the lounges I go to in NY anyway, and I probably banged your girlfriend.

Posted by evilgeniusx at 2:49 pm on 09.13.05

48: ET, I think we're missing something here, what were you doing? In Brooklyn? In a hammock? Alone??

Posted by will at 3:00 pm on 09.13.05

49: evilgeniusx I think I have two children that could be yours.....

Posted by Now I know at 3:02 pm on 09.13.05

50: What am I supposed to do? Let loose in my pants? I'd still be pissing on the street if I did, in a court of law. Hold onto to it? No way Hosé, that's what I say. Too much pain. Hoboken, Manhattan, Lower East Side you name it, walls are for pissing against!

Posted by The Urinator at 4:08 pm on 09.13.05

51: Hoboken is just a stop for NJ college kids most of whom just want to get married and have kids while in their 20s. They are the new Jersey people who move to the suburbs and become soccer moms and dads. The % of hobokeners who move to the city is probably like 30% and thats a bit high.

Posted by cayce at 4:54 pm on 09.13.05

52: Oh fer chrissakes ET, you just had to break down and blog about fuckin' real estate. You'll have 100 more inane comments by Thursday.

Posted by Tom at 5:08 pm on 09.13.05

53: Some one mentioned the police blotter in the Hoboken Reporter. That was the best police blotter of all blotters.

My favorite headline for a blot was "Police stop smoking pot", which then went on to explain how police broke down the door of an apartment to put out a fire on a stove. The next week a correction was printed with the headline "Police don't stop smoking pot." Apparently, it was the fire department that put out the stove fire.

Posted by Little_silvered at 5:52 pm on 09.13.05

54: Some one mentioned the police blotter in the Hoboken Reporter. That was the best police blotter of all blotters.

My favorite headline for a blot was "Police stop smoking pot", which then went on to explain how police broke down the door of an apartment to put out a fire on a stove. The next week a correction was printed with the headline "Police don't stop smoking pot." Apparently, it was the fire department that put out the stove fire.

Posted by Little_silvered at 5:58 pm on 09.13.05

55: I've lived in Manhattan (on avenue D.) for ten years, and worked in Hoboken for six. I hate to break it to everyone, but I still love them both. Although I hate what the recent migrants into my home area (trust fund hipsters, read: yuppies) have done to the place, I, like many in Hoboken, have a sweet deal on my giant Manhattan apt. For some reason, I don't find the yuppies in Hoboken nearly as offensive as the ones on home turf. Maybe someone can explain that to me - or maybe I'm a giant hypocrite.
Communting to Hoboken for work has always been a treat. No one on the PATH, and getting out, well, it's like a breath of fresh air: comparitively quiet and somehow relaxing. Who else is relaxed ON THE WAY to work? And agreed, by the way: Brooklyn hipsters ARE yuppies..maybe just in-training, with better fashion-sense..

Chandler - what on earth do you have against "blue collar types"? My blue-collar sister law just gave birth to a baby girl on Sunday. She and my blue collar brother-in-law live on Washington & Fourth.

Posted by Lo at 6:59 pm on 09.13.05

56: movies under the stars.... st pats day parade.... Hoboken is a great place to live.

Posted by at 2:52 am on 09.14.05

57: fb / std / fyi

Hoboken=jersey=fake
Simple as that - be warned.

Posted by at 3:04 am on 09.14.05

58: Quite honestly, I'm over both Hobken (lived there for ten years) AND Manhattan (lived there for eleven years). I went back to my hometown after a twenty-one year absence. And I agree with above poster who said that most people in NYC who make fun of people in Hoboken (or people in Brooklyn, for that matter) are from small, tiny town in the middle of nowhere. I can always spot a someone who was born and raised in NYC as they never seem to have contempt for any of the boroughs. Once you get to be an old person like myself, you wake up one day and wonder what the heck are you doing paying outsane real estate prices. I had a six figure salary in Manhattan and my quality of life was still poor because I couldn't afford to do anything. And when you have kids, you start to look at the tuition for private schools ($20k for kindergarten) and it scares the crap out of you. Go look at your zoned public school and that will scare you even more. Glad that I was able to spend so much of my life in NYC but also glad that I woke up and realized how poor my quality of life was. So to those of you in NYC who ran away from where you're from - I say embrace it. It's who you are whether you like it or not.

Posted by at 11:11 am on 09.14.05

59: Hey, thinking of the Hobo Reporter -- what's up with T.Weed? Why hasn't he commented here?

Posted by HoboHobo at 12:17 pm on 09.14.05

60: evilgenius = "I am a real estate professional and a NJ expat"
That means, "guido". Clearly Jersey b&b - born and bred

Posted by ng at 12:19 pm on 09.14.05

61: Hoboken is a perfectly nice place to visit and live and anyone who says different is a pretentious cunt.

Natch = End-Of = Whatever

Posted by P of P at 2:29 pm on 09.14.05

62: i don't think i've ever been to hoboken, NJ, but i would love to see some hidden arty shit.

(i learned a new word from this entry -- detritus.)

patresa

Posted by patresa at 2:40 pm on 09.14.05

63: Are there Jews in Hoboken?

Posted by Ralph at 3:12 pm on 09.14.05

64: Fuhgetabouit!

Posted by Blue Collar Type at 3:44 pm on 09.14.05

65: The thing about it taking an hour to get to and from Hoboken is a bit disingenuous, because if it takes that long for you to get there, then that already means it's taking you 45 minutes to get from wherever you live in NY to another part of NY -- like the West Village. It can take an hour to get from New York to another place in New York (Queens, Brooklyn etc.) but you're still paying the high rents.

>>And I'm not sure why one wouldn't get a place across the river and ditch the PATH fares, but that's your prerogative.

If you live in Hoboken, that means you can take the path to the Village or midtown for $1.50. If you live on the UES, LES, a borough, etc., it costs $2.

Also, the subways in NYC are smelly, dirty and dangerous. Not the PATH.

I like the activities in NY and hanging out with friends there, but I don't know why anyone feels they have to live there. I enjoy visiting Disney World, but don't need to live in Disney World to visit it.

Posted by CL at 4:16 pm on 09.14.05

66: Re: 56
F's in hoboken beware
FB is a carrier

Posted by at 1:11 am on 09.15.05

67: What's a guido?
I'm an english idiot who knows nothing about your yankee doodle talk.

Posted by luke at 11:05 am on 09.15.05

68: I've rarely seen as big an empty load of bollocks of an exhange on the internet or eswhere for that matter. With your fucking your urine-smellling hoboken or whatever the sad shithole is called! Hold on, if you have sweet fuck all to say for yourselves or for yourself, Eurotrash, put a fucking lid on it, and keep the bones for the dog!

Posted by Trevor at 4:20 pm on 09.15.05

69: Real estate has made me what I am today, 28, second Mercedes, cool apartment, entry to the best lounges and clubs, if you are jealous, suck it up, you either got or not, I got it

Posted by evilgeniusx at 4:40 pm on 09.15.05

70: My best memory of New Jersey is a nice restaurant where on top of the door to the restroom was written: "Make your deposit here"

Posted by Erica at 8:57 am on 09.16.05

71: I've never even heard of it, so it must be rubbish.

Posted by Furrowbrow at 12:11 pm on 09.16.05

72: I dropped you from my blogroll because you almost never mentioned the place, let alone wrote about it. Not to mention the fact that you never blogroll Jersey blogs or talked about Jersey issues. I'm at least as tired of you being embarrassed that you live in Hoboken as you claim to be. And I'm embarrassed for you, since you felt the need to treat your place of residence as something to be hidden.

I know what you're afraid of, of course. You're afraid of comments like this: "I've rarely seen as big an empty load of bollocks of an exhange on the internet or eswhere for that matter. With your fucking your urine-smellling hoboken or whatever the sad shithole is called!" which inevitably follow a post daring to suggest that one's merit is not defined by one's location. And you're afraid of losing social status in general - even those who won't say so might wonder if you're not really a second-class citizen who can't make it in the big town.

But really, those commenters have little to recommend them anyway. If they abandoned your blog forever, what exactly would you lose? As far as general social status, well what can we say. Rise above it, or be part of the problem. That's your choice, as ever, but I don't think you've really made a decision, yet.

You've stuck your head out of the closet. Good for you. That's phase one. Let me know when you're ready to stick a foot out.

Posted by Mr. Snitch! at 5:07 pm on 09.16.05

73: oh man...you have one crazy blogsite! loved your views and your take on things!

Posted by mike martin at 6:20 pm on 09.16.05

74: Evil, 'he who dies with the most toys," ... still fucking dies. See ye in that 6 foot hole, ye bragging louse ye.

Posted by AMP at 8:55 pm on 09.16.05

75: Euro, nice to see you have finally shown some love to Hoboken. I agree with Mr. Snitch, and hope that you embrace it further.

I find that the majority of people who comment on Hoboken based their perceptions upon outdated views (the town has radically changed in the last 50+ years after Sinatra left) or just common ignorance.

But, I do happen to agree with the critics about the homogenous demographics of the town. There were a lot of young kids in town about 10 years ago who took advantage of low rents and created quite the yuppie boom that once existed here.

Times are changing - and Hoboken is no different. Take a look at some of the new construction in town and you are witnessing 800k-1.5 million dollar condos under construction at Maxwell Place, on the waterfront. What was once a 20 something paradise is slowly giving way to young, influential families who are completely changing the makeup of this town.

I find it completely absurd that NYC residents have the eliteist disposition towards Hoboken, when, realistically, they don't know what they are talking about. I have lived in Hoboken for 10 years, certainly can afford NYC and choose not to - because I very much like it here.

Posted by Furey at 2:37 am on 09.19.05

76: The reality is that Hoboken's main advantage is it's proximity to NYC.

There are plenty of places to eat, but no real outstanding restaurants.
There are plenty of places to drink, but the nothing special about most of the bars.

The nightspots are mostly filled with frat boys and girls from central NJ.
Nothing wrong with that though. The women in Hoboken are hot. I will admit that much.

Posted by Stanley at 3:19 am on 09.20.05

77: "Times are changing - and Hoboken is no different. Take a look at some of the new construction in town and you are witnessing 800k-1.5 million dollar condos under construction at Maxwell Place, on the waterfront. What was once a 20 something paradise is slowly giving way to young, influential families who are completely changing the makeup of this town."

Yes. shocking. Probably the greatest indicator that the demographics are rapidly changing.

Posted by Stanley at 3:21 am on 09.20.05

78: Jersey will live forever, but i doubt there'll EVER be ANYWHERE to park in Hoboken.

Posted by jenn see at 4:05 pm on 09.21.05

79: For "furrowbrow"
If the world would be made of things that you have never heard of, it would be a big pile of rubbish, the entire world, around you and your mirror.
The thing about that restaurant, which I swear it is real, was that somehow was classy and the message above the restroom door was not at all vulgar. And that is an achivement, when you think of it.

Posted by Erica at 10:29 am on 09.23.05

80: When I do mad shit ma nipples go hard and firm (anyone else have this Genetic malfunction) I am a freak I knew it why should I be different from everyone else ehh in fact I am perfect it’s everyone else that messed up what am I saying (is suicide an answer) HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!>>>>>>>!!!!..................

Posted by danny at 4:55 pm on 09.29.05

81: Erica - I'm gratified that you decided to take my comment seriously, but it wasn't intended to be taken that way... I'm sure that Hobgoblin is a lovely place.

Posted by Furrowbrow at 12:40 pm on 10.06.05

82: Hoboken is a nice place to live. In fact, Jersey is actually a great state to live in.

It's becoming less and less clear to me what makes Manhattan so great.

Is it the new "mall" known as the Time Warner Center?
Is it the Brooklyn guidofest that hits Crobar Thu-Sat nights?
Is it the ghetto ass crowd hanging about W3rd?
Is it the new collection of celebrity chef's trying to sell us on the fact that 'pureed' food is edible (which isn't, unless you are a baby or an unfortunate elderly invidual who cannot swallow solids)?
Is it the view of the new highrise coming up next to you, blocking out all your sunlight (if you had any to begin with, that is)?
Is it Famous Ray's crappizza? Or the corner deli which ha s now evolved into a mini restaurant serving buffet delicacies! (mmm...looks so good sitting out there in the open all day long)?
Is it the upper West and upper East sides, which are basically like living in the suburbs?
Is is the gaudy brass plating in buildings all over midtown, made to resemble Gold (courtesy the Donald)?

Is it all of the above?

Posted by Chandler at 1:11 am on 10.13.05

83: Thank god for Journal Square, Jersey City's alternative to Hoboken.

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